Posted on Thursday, 23rd October 2008 by Roland_Melnick
DEVELOPING STORY:
Dane County judge decides to ignore Federal law and let State elections officials off the hook….I will post more when I get it.
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October 23rd, 2008 at 11:37 am
“decides to ignore Federal law”
What Federal Law? The one the gurantees all qualified citizens the right to cast a vote? The one that stipulates that Republicans can’t disenfranchise voters due to typos and missing middle initials?
The judge balked at Van Hollen’s assumption that he even had the power to bring the lawsuit. That power belongs to the U.S. Department of Justice.
Ignored Federal Law…..that’s rich.
October 23rd, 2008 at 12:18 pm
Aren’t you going to wait for the story to develop before commenting Meeps?
October 23rd, 2008 at 12:19 pm
Whew…that was close. I’m glad to see that someone is standing up for the disenfranchised dead voter.
Now will someone please turn the Democrat Vote Fraud machine back on?
October 23rd, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Guess this means I’m hitting every polling station I can and voting for McCain 10 or 12 times, I have many dead relatives whose names I can use. After all, it’s my “right”, isn’t it?
October 23rd, 2008 at 12:47 pm
“Now will someone please turn the Democrat Vote Fraud machine back on?”
You mean the machines in W. Virginia that changed Democrat votes to Republican votes?
Jaeson, the story broke on JSonline.com before anything was posted here. Roland Melnick wasn’t the first, or only, person to know about the ruling.
Justice is being upheld. Qualified voters will now have a chance to vote. They won’t have to worry about typos or missing middle initials on file. This had nothing to do with voter registration, Pelican Pants. These are qualified, registered, living voters who won’t have their civic duties roadblocked by Republicans.
Don’t worry your sad little faces off, Republicans. I’m sure you’ll come up with other ways to steal the election. You always do.
October 23rd, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Amy, I know it sounds like you’re being sarcastic or joking.
But in reality, Republicans do need to start cheating at the poles, for anything to be done about voter fraud.
As long as the Democratss remain the sole benefactors of voter fraud, the moonbats will do whatever is necessary to protect voter fraud at all costs.
If it becomes known that Republicans are cheating as well, the Democrats will instantly change their position, demand voter I.D., and cease the repeating of two of their favorite buzz words: disenfranchise and suppression.
October 23rd, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Jaeson, the story broke on JSonline.com before anything was posted here. Roland Melnick wasn’t the first, or only, person to know about the ruling.
Don’t you think the word “developing” indicates that perhaps Badger blogger may have additional information? Especially considering a straight story almost never comes out of jsonline, as is evidenced by their declining readership?
These are qualified, registered, living voters who won’t have their civic duties roadblocked by Republicans.
Do they include dead goldfish by chance?
http://www.newsmax.com/politics/voter_registration_goldfish/2008/10/21/142436.html
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:06 pm
I knew I should have stopped in at the Zeidler Building last night and filled out a ballot (along with my friend from South Carolina–all she needed was me to vouch for her, right?). But we have jobs and stuff that we’d lose with a felony conviction, so we walked on by. Stupid of us.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:08 pm
Is it true that the Dallas Cowboys will be voting here too? – As well as in Dallas; Las Vegas; New York; Florida….? Hey meepos, is the bus you volunteer to drive “registered” voters to the polls sponsored by ACORN? Is Leo Burt one of your “registered” voters? You guys do know where he is don’t you?
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:11 pm
Okay, geniuses. Tell me how many people in the last decade have been charged with voter fraud? All of the Conservative charges are ghosts meant to scare voters away from the polls. There will be a historic turnout of voters this year and the Republican are panicking. Paul Weyrich, who co-founded the Moral Marjority, was quoted in 1980 as saying, “They want everybody to vote. I don’t want everybody to vote. As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down.”
The fact is there is little evidence to support the theory that “voter fraud” is even an issue. The claim that voter fraud is an issue is, in itself, fraudulent. And anyone who claims that Republicans are guilty of voter fraud must have post September of 2000 amnesia.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:14 pm
This is terrible.
meepos is apparently confused by the fact that
this law actually exists.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Thanks for brining up HAVA, Gman.
HAVA was endorsed and supported by Jack Abramoff and Bob Ney, both of whom are in prison now for their subversive rolls with commission members who were to remain “indepedent” of the issue. HAVA is a prime example of how Republicans are trying to legitimize voter disenfranchisement. For instance, some states (Florida and Iowa, for example) require a “perfect match” between voter registration records and other government documents. If even so much as a hyphen or middle initial is missing, a citizen is denied their right to vote. HAVA demands that voter records be maintained by secretaries of state. These partisan officials can purge voters from voting rolls whenever they see fit. HAVA relies too heavily on provisional ballots as a fail-safe. Most of these provisional ballots are thrown away. In an effort to help Americans vote, more and more Americans are kept from casting a ballot by HAVA.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:35 pm
And anyone who claims that Republicans are guilty of voter fraud must have post September of 2000 amnesia.
2000? Isn’t that when Al Gore picked Richard Daley *snicker* to “supervise” vote recounts and attempted to discard absentee ballots submitted by active-duty servicemen?
Curse those Republican fiends!
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:53 pm
If Republicans are engaging in voter supression, as liberals would have you believe, then Democrats are enganging in voter fraud supression.
HAVA nice day!
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:59 pm
F— it. I’m voting multiple times now:
1. Absentee
2. In person in my home town
3. In person in my work city
4. Madison, since a chunk of my paycheck goes there
5. Door County, since I spent most of the summer there
October 23rd, 2008 at 3:47 pm
If you vote multiple times, enjoy your time in jail.
I’m glad to see conservatives so interested in voter supression and fraud. Please join many Democrats who have been supporting and donating to clean election organizations for years.
Glenn, no need to worry about the Dallas Cowboys or Mickey Mouse. ACORN pays people to register people and it is against the law for them to throw away any of the paperwork. So if someone tries to get paid by filling out forms with false names, ACORN separates those forms, but still turns them in with a note on them. Some republican officials publicized the fake name forms and Fox News spent a week on the story. There is no need to worry about Mickey Mouse showing up to vote. Even if someone claimed to be Mickey Mouse, the form was never processed even though it was flagged and turned in according to Federal law.
The people who will vote are the millions of new voters who registered legally this year because they want the Republicans out.
October 23rd, 2008 at 4:13 pm
Sarcasm, dumbass. Sarcasm.
October 23rd, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Meepos…answer this question please:
In light of all the fraudulent voter registrations being discovered, why is it unreasonable to demand an investigation into whether anyone will vote or attempt to vote under said fraudulent registration?
As far as prosecutions for “voter fraud”…one of the realities from previous elections is that record-keeping has been found to be extremely sloppy. Without respect to why it is sloppy, you can’t base a successful prosecution like this when the evidence is tainted this way. Didn’t change the fact that reports of fraud were documented.
As far as HAVA is concerned, meepos…you are advocating that it is legitimate to disregard a law just because you disagree with it. That’s sensible.
October 23rd, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Most of these provisional ballots are thrown away.
Support this statement please.
October 23rd, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Please join many Democrats who have been supporting and donating to clean election organizations for years.
LOL! It must be fun living in Bizarro World.
October 23rd, 2008 at 5:34 pm
Do they include dead goldfish by chance?
You know, I read the headline on that article–”Dead Goldfish Registered to Vote in Illinois”–and it was an utter lie. A goldfish was sent “voter registration materials” by a third-party organization, but the fish was never registered to vote. Is “NewsMax” always so full of crap?
Support this statement please.
Here’s what a quick search turns up: “n 2004, more than 1.6 million provisional ballots were cast, and over 1 million were counted. Seventy percent of provisional ballots cast in states that allow provisional ballots to be cast anywhere in the proper jurisdiction were counted as valid. In states requiring that provisional ballots be cast in the proper precinct, 62 percent were counted.”
While that’s not “most” being uncounted, it’s still a significant number.
October 23rd, 2008 at 7:54 pm
The people who will vote are the millions of new voters who registered legally this year because they want the Republicans out.
Actually, it appears that there may be no increase of first time voters:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/111331/No-Increase-Proportion-First-Time-Voters.aspx
October 23rd, 2008 at 8:10 pm
Support this statement please.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/vote2004/countymap.htm
You know, I read the headline on that article–â€Dead Goldfish Registered to Vote in Illinoisâ€â€“and it was an utter lie. A goldfish was sent “voter registration materials†by a third-party organization, but the fish was never registered to vote. Is “NewsMax†always so full of crap?
Fair enough. However, I fail to see how a goldfish being sent registration material is any better. Live or dead.
October 23rd, 2008 at 8:41 pm
I’ve told you people for months and months…Libtards don’t care about you, your rights, they don’t care about voter fraud, they don’t care about poor, black and elderly being disenfranchised and they don’t care how they gain power. They want power.
Tom McCann and the FRESHMAKER are either dishonest libtards or as dumb as road kill.
Although both are possible, we certainly recongize their lack of honesty.
Take note dear friends, their rejoinders are typically rhetorical and deflective.
October 23rd, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Jaeson, not proportionally higher, but still millions of new voters. (from the same article Jaeson linked to above)
“This to some degree may reflect the high turnout in 2004, which was about 10 points higher than it had been in recent elections, and thus would have significantly diminished the available pool of potential first-time voters for the 2008 election. Thus, the fact that the 2008 estimate of first-time voters is no lower than the 2004 estimate may still reflect an impressive influx of new voters this year, even though it may not be proportionately higher than in the last election.”
October 23rd, 2008 at 9:04 pm
If liberals didn’t care about rights, they probably wouldn’t expend so much political capital defending human, civil, and gay rights.
If liberals didn’t care about the poor, black, and ederly, they could just adopt Republican economic policies.
If liberals only cared about getting into power…
…well, yes, liberals do want to be in power (by means of open and transparent democratic processes) so we all can pursue a more perfect union with liberty and justice for all.
October 23rd, 2008 at 9:36 pm
However, I fail to see how a goldfish being sent registration material is any better. Live or dead.
The group that sent the materials was using a mailing list purchased from a vendor. They had no way to know that a fish with a human-sounding name was a fish, and not a human. There’s no malice there, no intent to defraud.
October 23rd, 2008 at 9:53 pm
I actually do get to vote twice: legally. I cast my own ballot plus that of my 82 year old father, who is legally blind. When I take him to vote, I just mark his ballot the same as mine. He doesn’t know the difference.
Do something about it. I dare you.
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Peter, Folktunes understands what is going on, but Folktunes has sacrificed his character for his inability to function without government protection and liberal power.
The lame-ass attempt to deflect obvious voter fraud, and the OPEN DOOR policies to voter fraud that exist, by noting anecdotes about GOLFISH or MICKEY MOUSE (GUS MOUSE) being registered simply insults the intelligence of those smarter and of higher character than Jay Bullock et al.
ACORN is dirty, and Jay Bullock knows that. He simply doesn’t care. Dirty is ok, if dirty helps liberals.
The mask of liberal tolerance has come off. Liberals are not tolerant, liberals do not care about the poor and minoriities. Liberals care about themselves. I believe and I am on record as suggesting that Jay Bullock was once different.
Clearly he is no longer part of any solution.
Jay approves of wrongs, as long as they favor his power base.
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:52 pm
When the final version of H.R. 3295 [107th]: Help America Vote Act of 2002, also known as “HAVA” came up for a vote, every US Congressman/woman from Wisconsin voted for it, except Sensenbrenner. FACT is that it received bipartisan support, passing as follows:
House–357 FOR, 48 AGAINST, 26 PRESENT/NO VOTE;
Senate–92 FOR, 2 AGAINST, 6 PRESENT/NO VOTE.
Drifting off about corrupt politicos Abramoff and Ney has nothing to do with HAVA…their corruption had to do with gaming and casino special interests.
@folkbum…I agree that the “provisional ballot” system is a mess. It is confusing and convoluted. Highly paid full-time professionals have a hard time following its requirements, as evidenced by the Ohio Sec. of State; and it’s even worse for lower paid or volunteer election workers.
That said…provisional ballots are issued to the voter when there exists an irregularity regarding a voter with respect to the law. A percentage of ‘provisionals’ being thrown out should surprise no one and does not automatically equate to “voter suppression.” To prove suppression, you would have to show that a thrown out provisional should not have been thrown out.
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:56 pm
@peaceisactive…John was apparently being sarcastic about voting more than once. But, let’s say he did (and didn’t confess to it @ BadgerBlogger.com)…how would you go about proving it?
October 23rd, 2008 at 11:24 pm
I’m all for figuring out the best way to have one person one vote.
However, the “best way” shouldn’t include requirements that decrease legitimate voter participation.
October 24th, 2008 at 1:48 am
gus, you assume that folktunes has character. There is a difference between “has character” and “is a character.”
October 24th, 2008 at 4:43 am
PIA, it’s called “Voter I.D.” embrace it!
October 24th, 2008 at 8:01 am
“Drifting off about corrupt politicos Abramoff and Ney has nothing to do with HAVA…”
As Chairman of the U.S. House Administration Committee, it was Ney who pushed HAVA through Congress. Ney was it’s principal author. He was put in jail for accepting bribes in exchange for favors to Jack Abramoff and his clients, in regards to HAVA. Tell me how they nothing to do with HAVA, Melnick.
And I don’t dicredit HAVA simply because I don’t agree with it. It’s proven to be a PARTISAN effort by the Republicans to hinder, not help, the American voter.
October 24th, 2008 at 8:04 am
“Drifting off about corrupt politicos Abramoff and Ney has nothing to do with HAVA…”
As Chairman of the U.S. House Administration Committee, it was Ney who pushed HAVA through Congress. Ney was it’s principal author. He was put in jail for accepting bribes in exchange for favors to Jack Abramoff and his clients, in regards to HAVA. Tell me how they have nothing to do with HAVA, Melnick.
And I don’t dicredit HAVA simply because I don’t agree with it. It’s proven to be a PARTISAN effort by the Republicans to hinder, not help, the American voter.
October 24th, 2008 at 9:23 am
Don’t forget about this guy
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=482903
October 24th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Obama and McCain supporters voting early at about the same rate
http://www.gallup.com/poll/111430/Early-Voting-Now-11-Could-Reach-30.aspx
October 24th, 2008 at 7:21 pm
Early voter numbers show tight situation in Colorado
http://www.9news.com/news/article.aspx?storyid=102386&catid=339
October 24th, 2008 at 7:25 pm
Death Threats Sent to Pollster After releasing this morning’s numbers showing McCain ahead in Ohio and Florida
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MWJkOGI1MjZjZDdjYjBmNWRiZTQ2ZDAyMTZhZTI5M2I=