Posted on Wednesday, 3rd September 2008 by Patrick Dorwin
Kake Tapper reports, Obama Hits Radio Airwaves with Abortion Ad. So, since he is bringing it up, let us take a look back at Mr. Obama’s record on abortion, including his support for infanticide, a measure that even Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy and NARAL opposed.
And who could forget his comparison of a baby to being punished with an STD.
Hat tip: Nurse Jill Stanek
I am really surprised that the Obama campaign is bringing this issue up.
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September 3rd, 2008 at 7:42 am
“…if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby…”
As a former baby, I find that remark highly offensive.
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:44 am
That fake bumber sticker is the absolute silliest and most shallow thing I’ve ever seen. One could easily make a sticker saying, “Palin wants our underage, unwed daughters to get pregnant, have access to guns so they can kill people and be able to get jobs they’re unqualified for. Obama doesn’t.”
It’s these tired, old tactics that are taking the sophistication right out of politics. It’s turning what could and should be an intellectual forum into a grade school playground. Congratulations, you’ve all effectively confirmed that you’re idiots. Pat yourselves on the back.
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:47 am
Obama’s mother was also an underage unwed mother, wonder if Barack thinks he was a punishment?
@Meepos You can’t imagine how badly your comments about us being idiots, hurts me… Honest, it deeply hurts me…
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:48 am
By-the-way, would anybody like to tell me where federal funding comes from if we don’t get it from tax revenue? It comes from other countries, which produces a debt that we can’t pay back. So, what do we do? We borrow more money, to pay back that debt, which creates more debt. We’re borrowing money from China to pay the oil sellers in the Middle East. We ain’t exactly on friendly terms with either, but we’re completely dependant on their support to stabalize our economy.
Funny how the Republicans never bring that up.
September 3rd, 2008 at 7:52 am
Obama’s mother was 18. Not underage anywhere in the U.S.
Oh, nice smiley face, bro. What are you, 10 years old?
September 3rd, 2008 at 8:01 am
She was pregnant and unmarried at 17, she married the father shortly before Barack was born… Sounds familiar?
September 3rd, 2008 at 8:05 am
Bristol’s birthday is Oct 18, she will be 18 when the baby is due in late Dec.
None of this should matter anyway, the liberal attacks on this girl is just plain dirty.
September 3rd, 2008 at 8:08 am
Patrick is going after Obama on an ISSUE here. But rather than address the issue (maybe it’s above your pay-grade too), you focus on the tongue-in-cheek bumper sticker. You then use the troll tactic of hijacking the thread by injecting a different issue entirely. Add that to your blanket statement that posters here are all idiots and you have proven you are doing nothing to elevate the debate your-own-damn-self.
September 3rd, 2008 at 8:23 am
Here’s a description of the Obama radio ad:
“Let me tell you: If Roe vs. Wade is overturned, the lives and health of women will be put at risk. That’s why this election is so important,†says the nurse-practitioner who narrates Obama’s ad. “John McCain’s out of touch with women today. McCain wants to take away our right to choose. That’s what women need to understand. That’s how high the stakes are.â€
An announcer then claims that “as president, John McCain will make abortion illegal,†before playing an exchange on “Meet the Press” in which McCain told moderator Tim Russert that he favors “a constitutional amendment to ban all abortions.â€
“We can’t let John McCain take away our right to choose. We can’t let him take us back,†says the ad.
September 3rd, 2008 at 8:25 am
Personally, I am pro-life, but I’m glad I had the freedom to make that choice.
September 3rd, 2008 at 8:27 am
“You then use the troll tactic of hijacking the thread by injecting a different issue entirely…”
If Patrick Dorwin didn’t want the sticker to be commented on, he shouldn’t have put it on the site. But he did, so it’s fair game.
The sticker mentions taxes, doesn’t it? So, taxes aren’t a “different issue entirely.”
The Obama “examples” you use are taken entirely out of context. They don’t dignify a response.
As for the abortion issue, it has been and always should be a choice issue. I would never encourage any woman to have an abortion; however, I would like every woman to be able to govern her own body. We rule this nation with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, not the King James Bible. You don’t approve of abortion? Great. I won’t argue with you. But don’t pawn your religious morals off on an entire nation that doesn’t adhere to those morals.
September 3rd, 2008 at 8:34 am
Personally, I am pro-life, but I’m glad I had the freedom to make that choice.
I have the same stance. First I don’t think it’s womthing that will work if it’s banned ot legislated away, kind of like smoking or illicit drugs or porstitution. It’ll always be there. The only real question is if you want to have alot of dead teenage mothers in back alleys.
Plus, I think that a potential parent that would would go through with an abortion wouldn’t be a good parent in to begin with, so they may be saving the unborn child a life of misery.
September 3rd, 2008 at 8:37 am
My bumper sticker would read:
“Republicans are taxing your babies”
My kids would probably think I was a good father if I gave them more money without telling them I was selling their future to foreign interests.
Republicans will be more believable on their tax and economic policies once they learn how to balance a budget, control their spending, and get honest about the massive debt they have racked up.
September 3rd, 2008 at 8:38 am
Personally, I am pro-life, but I’m glad I had the freedom to make that choice.
Indeed. What a great nation that allows women to kill their unborn (and born) children for the crime of being “unplanned”! /sarcasm
Want to talk about “women’s health” – read this blog: http://www.realchoice.blogspot.com. Read about the women who go in for supposedly “safe†abortions and end up dying horribly painful deaths at the hands of grossly incompetent medical staff, in facilities that are either poorly equipped, unsanitary, or otherwise unfit for medical procedures.
Abortion is the murder of a separate human being. No woman has two hearts, two sets of lungs, two brains, two sets of DNA – a baby is an individual person. As a nation, we should be ashamed that this is considered a “right†and that 50 million children have died in the name of “choice.â€
Absolutely disgusting and inexcusable.
September 3rd, 2008 at 8:40 am
By the way, before Roe v. Wade, 90%+ abortions were still performed by medical professionals – not back alleys. So that myth is a lie.
For you men out there, here’s a radical notion: if you get a girl pregnant, take care of her and your child! Don’t send her to a slaughter house where your child (and possibly her) will wind up dead.
Nothing is more misogynistic than a man who allows a woman to have an abortion.
September 3rd, 2008 at 8:40 am
We all should be able to agree that preventing unwanted pregnancies and supporting adoption services needs more emphasis.
September 3rd, 2008 at 8:49 am
“As for the abortion issue, it has been and always should be a choice issue. I would never encourage any woman to have an abortion; however, I would like every woman to be able to govern her own body. We rule this nation with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, not the King James Bible.”
Sorry meepos, your ignorance of the human anatomy, as well as the Bill of Rights, is glaring!
Lesson #1: An unborn child IS NOT part of a woman’s body! The child is a separate human being. As a matter of fact, when a woman gives birth, it is not a result of her body deciding that the baby is to come forth; the child’s body send a signal to the mother’s brain to secrete the hormones that cause the contraction. So, a woman can choose to cut off her arm, if she wants; however, she does not have the option or choice to end the life of her unborn child, with the exception if childbirth is a truly endangerment to her life.
And, by the way, there are many responsible fathers that do not want their child aborted and they have just as much right to see that child born!
Lesson #2: The Bill of Rights and the Constitution were based and written upon the King James Bible, IDIOT!!!! The rights to LIFE, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness were based upon the right endowed by our CREATOR!
And, by the way, since Obama WILL NOT protect life, he certainly WILL NOT protect liberty and the pursuit of happiness!
September 3rd, 2008 at 8:59 am
Republicans will be more believable on their tax and economic policies once they learn how to balance a budget, control their spending, and get honest about the massive debt they have racked up.
I hate to burst a bubble here, but Democrats aren’t any better on this front. Not by a long shot.
It’s generally not Republicans who are begging government to hold their hands from cradle to grave. For myself, all I want or need from government is for them to protect me and keep me safe. Everything else is fat to be cut.
Nothing is more misogynistic than a man who allows a woman to have an abortion.
Why are people so in love with the word “misogynistic” these days?
September 3rd, 2008 at 9:26 am
We all should be able to agree that preventing unwanted pregnancies and supporting adoption services needs more emphasis.
I do agree. The approach is where disagreement comes in.
Liberals think the solution is to throw more birth control at the problem. Birth control is not 100% fail safe. Pregnancies still happen. And then abortion is the backup birth control.
And many pro-abortion liberals argue it’s preferable to be dead than live in the “system†or foster care. I think we should take the millions of dollars given to PP for abortions and put it into adoption programs to help families adopt “unwanted†children.
September 3rd, 2008 at 9:31 am
meepos…I disagree with the core of your argument…that it’s all about the mother. The death of an innocent made secondary in importance to a “right to choose” is sickening. “Life” is the most basic human right. Pro-abortion people have engaged in one of the biggest collective acts of denial in human history…that a baby still in the mother is not a living thing worthy of basic human rights.
I am not a particularly religious person…I’m not born-again or evangelical…I go to my wife’s church on some holidays…so this isn’t about religious faith for me.
Going through the process of getting pregnant and helping my wife get through some health issues related to the pregnancy has strengthened our view on this. While I believe there should always be the exception that allows an abortion to save the mother’s life, I don’t think an abortion that doesn’t meet that criteria is morally justifiable.
Why? When we were pregnant, those weren’t just masses of tissue in her belly. They were babies. We did what anyone would do for a beloved family member when it came to caring for them (doctor visits, healthy diet, no exposure to tobacco or alcohol, etc). But, thanks to Roe v. Wade, any mother can say, “that thing in my belly is no better than a cancerous growth, get rid of it.” Regardless of whether the mother arrives at that decision easily or not, to treat life in such an arbitrary way completely lacks morality.
September 3rd, 2008 at 9:38 am
Am I missing something? Who is attacking this young, pregnant girl? Granted I don’t venture out into the blogosphere much, but I have not heard anyone say anything inappropriate about this delicate situation.
September 3rd, 2008 at 10:09 am
Granted I don’t venture out into the blogosphere much, but I have not heard anyone say anything inappropriate about this delicate situation.</I.
Well, aside from the fact DailyKOS accused Palin of faking her pregnancy to pass off Trig as her son (rather than her grandson), or media calling Bristol a “whore” and a “slut” – yeah. No trashing there whatsoever.
September 3rd, 2008 at 11:53 am
John McCain wants to take away a woman’s right to choose?
He wants to take away a woman’s right to choose where her child goes to school? Oh, wait… that is already made more difficult by government.
He wants to take away her right to choose what she listens to on the radio?… Oh, wait… they want to take that away too.
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Perhaps George Carlin put it best, “If you’re pre-born, you’re fine, if you’re pre-schooled, you’re fucked. Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers. Pro-life, these people aren’t pro-life, they’re killing doctors, what kind of pro-life is that? What, they’ll do everything they can do save a fetus, but if it grows up to be a doctor they just might have to kill it?”
Conservatives want you to have a baby, but they don’t want to give that baby suitable social welfare programs or aid. They won’t give that child good, free public schools to attend. They want to throw that child in prison on the military when they turn eighteen. They don’t want the child to grow into an adult who lives in a country with plentiful jobs or a solid economy so they may raise their own children.
September 3rd, 2008 at 12:49 pm
“Lesson #2: The Bill of Rights and the Constitution were based and written upon the King James Bible, IDIOT!!!! The rights to LIFE, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness were based upon the right endowed by our CREATOR!”
What backwards, bizarro world do you live in?
“Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for is faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a wall of separation between Church and State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.”
That’s a direct comment from Thomas Jefferson in regards to the seperation of church and state.
“Congress should not establish a religion and enforce the legal observation of it by law, nor compel men to worship God in any manner contrary to their conscience, or that one sect might obtain a pre-eminence, or two combined together, and establish a religion to which they would compel others to conform” (Madison, Annals of Congress, 1789).
So, you don’t know your history in regards to the Constitution. It appears you know even less about anatomy. With the exception of a few test-tube babies, can you tell me how many babies were born outside of the anatomy of a woman? To suggest that a fetus isn’t part of a woman’s body suggest a depth of ignorance that I can’t comprehend. Put down your bible and pick up a text book before you run your mouth off.
September 3rd, 2008 at 1:00 pm
“Why? When we were pregnant, those weren’t just masses of tissue in her belly. They were babies. We did what anyone would do for a beloved family member when it came to caring for them (doctor visits, healthy diet, no exposure to tobacco or alcohol, etc). But, thanks to Roe v. Wade, any mother can say, “that thing in my belly is no better than a cancerous growth, get rid of it.†Regardless of whether the mother arrives at that decision easily or not, to treat life in such an arbitrary way completely lacks morality.”
We can’t allow ourselves to makes these issues so personal. I have not yet experienced the joy of parenting, but it is something I look forward to. Again, I would never, ever this of arbitrarily deciding with my wife to consider abortion. But I want to live in a country that leaves that right up to the individual involved.
I’m sure if everyone’s son/daughter went off to war and died, we’d have no wars. If everyone was out of a job, our country would be the land of professional prosperity. If everyone had a gay/lesbian son or daughter who wanted to marry, same sex marriage would be legal nation wide. However, that is not the case. We have to allow ourselves to be objective in our analysis. My analysis is that a woman should govern her own body. Her decision does not affect my daily life. Again, don’t foist your moral code onto a nation that shouldn’t be governed by it.
September 3rd, 2008 at 1:01 pm
“Again, I would never, ever this of arbitrarily deciding…”
this should be think.
September 3rd, 2008 at 1:12 pm
Nice try, meepos!!! There IS NO separation of church and state aside from the Supreme Court appointed one that you communists designed in the 60′s!!! The term separation of church and state are NOWHERE in the U.S. Constitution or the Bill of Rights!!!
Here’s lesson #3 for you, and your history bending ilk: Thomas Jefferson used that term in a letter to Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson a committee of the Danbury Baptist Association when he was assuring them that the government would in NO WAY interfere with the exercise of religion; not the other way!
He wrote the letter agreeing with the Danbury Baptist Association’s statement that, “Our ancient charter together with the law made coincident therewith, were adopted as the basis of our government, at the time of our revolution; and such had been our laws and usages, and such still are; that religion is considered as the first object of legislation;…”; Jefferson recognized that our laws were based upon the Bible!
The problem with you infant-hating liberals is that you will ALWAYS reject anything or anyone that disagrees with your abortion-promoting ways!!!
When the infanticide-pushing, socialist, Obama is defeated this fall, your lamenting and venom will be drowned out by the peace, American, and life loving people of this GOD-given country of ours!!!
September 3rd, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Oh, and by the way, meepos, I have worked in the medical industry for over 10 years and no of what I speak!!!! Just because you place NO value on the life of an infant does not make it any less unique from it’s mother!!! I will NEVER put down my Bible as the Bible is the difference between the majority of people in our fine country, whom support life, and the minority, such as yourself, whom willingly snuff life out with your political expediencies and power struggles!!!
September 3rd, 2008 at 1:43 pm
That’s a direct comment from Thomas Jefferson in regards to the seperation of church and state.
So what? It’s not in the Constitution, therefore it is irrelevant to the debate.
To suggest that a fetus isn’t part of a woman’s body suggest a depth of ignorance that I can’t comprehend.
It grows in a woman’s body, but is not part of her body. Please, prove me wrong. Show me where medical research indicates a baby is exactly like his mother until birth.
How a person is conceived – be it unplanned, carefully planned, through rape – does not change the unique nature of the human individual. You and I and everyone here all started out the same way, as separate individuals. Just because we were “wanted” does not mean we were endowed with a special humanity gene that made us more human than children conceived outside of meticulously planned situations.
So no dice.
LIFE is still the first right guaranteed to Americans. It has less to do with religion than basic decency and common sense – a culture that wants to live doesn’t kill off its children.
By the way – if being pro-life is the market of only religious persons – how do you explain a group like Atheists for Life?
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Touche’, Amy P!!!! It truly takes the most callous and uncaring of hearts to declare a living and growing infant, born or unborn, as a non-viable thing that can be wantonly cast aside to die!
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Again, don’t foist your moral code onto a nation that shouldn’t be governed by it. Why not meepos? We legislate morality on all kinds of things…drug use…prostitution…assault…abuse…murder…
Your whole position on this issue is based on denying that a baby has rights; that somehow the act of giving birth somehow transforms a lump of tissue into a person. A position contradicted by science, which has shown that an unborn baby shows signs of brain activity only a few months into a pregnancy. This denial is key for your position to have support out there.
Her decision does not affect my daily life.
You have the luxury of such a self-centered view since your mother didn’t abort you.
We have to allow ourselves to be objective in our analysis.
I am looking at this issue objectively. I think a human being is a human being much earlier than the day it flops into the hands of an ObGyn, and as such has the right to survive. When exactly does consciousness start? I don’t know, but science has shown it to be before birth with new info being learned all the time. Pre-birth/post-birth makes a nice, easily defined benchmark. But with more evidence emerging that a baby, even at the most basic level of consciousness, is self-aware, can feel pain and pleasure, I find it sickening that killing it is championed as a choice.
We can’t allow ourselves to makes these issues so personal. The day we flush our humanity out of our politics is the day we let people kill babies…oops, too late.
September 3rd, 2008 at 2:32 pm
What media called that little slut Bristol a “whore”? Maybe liberal bloggers, but not the media.
Why does that bumper sticker feature Palin and not McCain? Who’s the one running for president again?
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:03 pm
Oh, and by the way, meepos, I have worked in the medical industry for over 10 years and no of what I speak!!!!
It’s “know” of what I speak. Am I debating with half-wits, here?
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
That is the preamble to the U.S. Constitution. I don’t see anything about “the creator.” You sound like you’re in a cult, for crying out loud.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
That’s Amendment One of the Constitution.
“You have the luxury of such a self-centered view since your mother didn’t abort you.”
Oh, so very clever. Wow. It’s not self-centered defend our basic, inalienable rights. I’m not the one saying a woman CAN’T do something to her own body. And what gives you wacko religious types the right to forfeit all rights to the unborn child? You’re all so self-righteous in this regard. What would you do with the baby that’s born? Send it off to war to die? Have it raised by a family suffering from the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression? Get off of your moral soapboxes, for the love of…..
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:08 pm
The bumper sticker and topic are the result of the leftists vile attack on a 17 year old girl, FredSays. Oh, and please do not say that the media is not involved because they quickly picked up where the hypocritical bloggists started and attacked as well!
The liberals and leftists are a joke; the minute a strong candidate on the opposition’s side, they lay into attack mode on a 17 year old girl and a 4 month old baby with Down’s Syndrome! Truly pathetic, yet per the left’s typical attack strategy!
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Does that language make you feel better? It sure impresses the rest of us.
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:13 pm
“the minute a strong candidate on the opposition’s side”
Palin is anything but strong. She’s being criticized for her lack of credentials and experience. If you want to convince yourselves that the Democrats are “scared” of her, fine. If that helps you sleep at night, go ahead.
What’s funny is how McCain is already cracking under the intense scrutiny of his decision. “Leave her alone…,” he says. “Lay off Palin,” he adds. Aww, poor old man. He’s made his stubborn bed and now he has to lay in it.
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:21 pm
Wow, meepos, you really proved me wrong! Just because I misspelled one word, I’m a half-wit; a typical elitist and leftist response!
And you’re right, being endow by our Creator is not in the Constitution; IT’S IN THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, which PRECEDES the U.S. Constitution and the U.S. Bill of Rights!!!!
Again, NONE of these documents contains anything with regard to the separation of church and state!!!
Oh, and by the way, babies don’t go to war when they’re born…just thought that you should know that. I’m surprised that you didn’t, since you supposedly know so much about the human anatomy!
And military service is voluntary, so no one is forced to serve in the U.S. military; of course, at one time there was a draft, created by a democrat! And who is trying to bring the draft back? Why, none other than Charlie Wrangle…a democrat!
Meepos, dispite you’re hate for those who love God, country, and life, we pray for you!
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:26 pm
That’s right, Meepos, Palin is a strong candidate; otherwise you leftist socialists would leave her run and “destroy” McCain’s chances!
She’s got far more executive experience than Obama and Biden put together, especially since they have NONE! The only experience that Obama has over Palin is infanticide; and you’re all upset because Palin would rather have children instead of killing them!
I know that it’s tough on you people for someone with morals and standards, like McCain, to have to tell you and teach you to behave like civilized adults and stop your baseless and vile attacks; but, then, anyone with morals is your enemy, huh?
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:35 pm
http://townhall.com/funnies/cartoonist/GlennMcCoy/2008/08/10
September 3rd, 2008 at 3:38 pm
I’m not the one saying a woman CAN’T do something to her own body. Neither am I. I just want to know why you champion the rights of the mother over the baby? This is why I say that dehumanizing a baby/fetus/mistake (whatever you want to call it) is essential to your argument. I think it’s wrong to do so and therefore my position is that we need to defend the defenseless because the mother’s decision doesn’t just effect her.
You’re all so self-righteous in this regard. What would you do with the baby that’s born?
There is no shortage of would be parents out there. I have friends who were unable to conceive, so they put themselves on adoption lists. And when that took too long, they went into deep debt adopting from Russia and China.
Send it off to war to die? We have a volunteer military in this country, so the surviving baby would have the freedom to do what it wants with its life.
It’s “know†of what I speak. Am I debating with half-wits, here?
How many spelling errors have you had in this thread, at least two? Did anyone call you a half-wit? There you go earning your Acerbic Jackass title again, meepos. Your hostility is signalling an end to any discussion here. Congratulations on keeping a lid on your anger as long as you did. Now take a deep breath and repeat after me: “serenity now…serenity now…”
September 3rd, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Have it raised by a family suffering from the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression? Get off of your moral soapboxes, for the love of…..
Typical liberal bulls*it. So you’re telling me it’s better to be dead than poor? To be dead than in foster care? Good to know you’re going to off all the kids living in poverty and/or foster homes.
What would you do with the baby that’s born? Send it off to war to die?
I know your candidate would kill it. As for war, if my adult child chooses to serve his nation, I’d be thrilled. By the way – it’s ironic you bring up war since Obama and Biden are both proponents of mandatory military service.
September 3rd, 2008 at 5:33 pm
“Conservatives want you to have a baby, but they don’t want to give that baby suitable social welfare programs or aid. They won’t give that child good, free public schools to attend. They want to throw that child in prison on the military when they turn eighteen. They don’t want the child to grow into an adult who lives in a country with plentiful jobs or a solid economy so they may raise their own children.”
Wow – how to dissect that paragraph – so much BS, so little time….
I believe hat 40 years of social welfare give-aways have made the problem worse, not better. Dependence begets more dependence and all that.
Doesn’t MPS already spend like over $11K per student? Since the problem seems to be an entrenched union and a bunch of nit-wits that want to just keep throwing money ($200 million in construction of empty classrooms and still $50 million to bus them to schools across the city) to have the worst scores and highest drop-out rate in the state….. Yeah – conservatives are a heartless bunch. How about killing the union, ousting the bureaucrats and privatizing to get more of the money actually to the kids?
I don’t believe you go to prison unless you break some type of law. So its very simple – stay in school and stay out of trouble. That personal responsibility can be such a bitch. Oh yeah – that would most likely get you a job too. Taxing business – while great political hay – actually has the counter effect of stunting job growth, slowing the economy and reducing tax revenues. Econ 101 – try it sometime.
I stayed in school, didn’t break the law and have a job. We are doing pretty well living and raising our children without government help, but thanks for caring.
September 3rd, 2008 at 6:35 pm
JJ: LOL I believe it was Tracey Coenen, a respected forensic accountant and friend of the blog, who worked the math on that one. If memory serves, it was actually about $14,500 (and change) per student. Feel free to Google it, I’m grilling.
If more people only knew the truth about MPS’s wastefulness. How ’bout that Charlene Hardin story that Dan Bice broke last week? Oh, that’s right… last week is so “last week.” Already off the radar.
September 3rd, 2008 at 8:19 pm
“Conservatives want you to have a baby, but they don’t want to give that baby suitable social welfare programs or aid. They won’t give that child good, free public schools to attend. They want to throw that child in prison on the military when they turn eighteen. They don’t want the child to grow into an adult who lives in a country with plentiful jobs or a solid economy so they may raise their own children.â€
No – conservatives believe people, free of government assistance and regulation, can make their own way…AND do it better.
We want kids to have good schools. MPS is a great example of a “free” school gone to hell.
We want the military to remain voluntary – it is OBAMA/BIDEN that want to make it mandatory. Those in the military are well-educated, selfless people – the kind liberals hate.
Liberals tax and regulate jobs out of America.
Liberals want people to grow up feeling entitled to have the government care for them for their entire lives. Liberals want everyone to live in equal poverty, saving the rich for themselves and their buddies (just look at how eco-hypocrites act).
Liberals punish the successful and reward mediocrity.
Liberals treat human beings as disposable commodities to be killed when inconvenient/imperfect/disabled.
September 4th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
meepos:
You make it sound as if you have nothing but contempt for the military and those who serve.
It’s military that ensures you have the right to sound like an nut case moonbat idiot coward.